This is a word for word conversation between Sandy who lives in Colorado and Carrie who is in Lawrence. Who would have the authority to send them, the Federal Prosecutor or Police Chief? It appears the two officers going after Carrie drove a Crown Vic all the way from Lawrence to Colorado to Harass and intimidate a potential witness by the name of Annette.
In order to make the trip look legitimate, they claimed to be needing to personally interview Sandy( a former employee) that had not worked in the business for over 6 years, while current and more recent employees were totally ignored.
On the same day the officers went to Colorado to do their so called Sandy "interview", residents in Annettes Colorado apartment complex saw a Crown Vic with two men matching the two officer's unique descriptions drive through the parking lot, the one on the passenger side got out and slashed all four of Annettes tires.
Even though Carrie carefully documented everything, her attorney refused to use any of it at trial. In fact, he did not call a single witness. This is just another fact was ignored by Carrie's Attorney. This is just another incident in a very dirty investigation that Carrie's attorney refused to challenge at trial because Carrie's attorney told her "the police are not on trial, you are"!
10:32pmCarrie
hey sandy
how are you
10:37pmSandy
Hi Carrie
10:38pmCarrie
I had a friend that moved to Colorado
10:38pmSandy
What part?
10:38pmCarrie
She was a witness in our case
10:38pmSandy
yeah
10:39pmCarrie
The cops had been harassing her because of her ties to me so she moved to colorado to get away from the and sue the city
in 2006 she told me two guys matching Bialek and Rantz description with kansas plates slashed her tires!
10:40pmSandy
Are they cops?
10:40pmCarrie
I told her there was no way they would have drove to Colorado to flatten her tires. We had a big fight about it because I didnt believe her and accused her of lying
It was the two cops that came to see you
10:41pmSandy
yeah
Oh
10:41pmCarrie
They used you as a cover-up
10:41pmSandy
WHAT???
10:41pmCarrie
so they could drive to colorado and harass her!!!
10:41pmSandy
Oh Carrie, are you sure?
That don't sound right to me
10:42pmCarrie
THey never talked to any of my other x-employees and they worked after you quit
I saw Nate yesterday
He said he has never been questioned
10:42pmSandy
Who is Nate?
10:42pmCarrie
He replaced you
10:42pmSandy
oh
10:43pmCarrie
I knew when I saw that they had talked to you it was dirty
10:43pmSandy
What was dirty?
10:43pmCarrie
because you had been gone so long that the statute of limitations would have been up on any information you could have given them
10:43pmSandy
Yeah, I agree with that
10:44pmCarrie
They went to colorado to harass, slash and intimidate my friend Annette
10:44pmSandy
That's crazy
10:44pmCarrie
They got the City to pay by using you
I asked an Agent who would have even approved the funding for two cops to drive all the way to colorado to interview you on city $$$
10:45pmSandy
I wondered why they would drive all the way here to talk to me
10:45pmCarrie
The agent said that they had no jurisdiction to cross state lines
10:45pmSandy
I thought it was strange
10:46pmCarrie
I said when we find out who sent them then we know who is behind the conspiracy to get Annette
10:46pmSandy
I told them over the phone that I didn't know anything
10:46pmCarrie
Yep
10:47pmSandy
But why would they be harrassing your friend to that extent?
10:47pmCarrie
The agent said that the Federal U.S. Attorney was the only one with authority to send them, otherwise they would have had to do the interview on the phone or get a colorado cop to do the interview and send them the transcripts.
10:47pmSandy
Wow
10:48pmCarrie
Because she was threatening a law suit against the City for the harassment that involved the two cops that drove down there to talk to you.
Do you remember what they were driving?
10:48pmSandy
Not at all
10:48pmCarrie
I have a description of the car from a witness that saw them slash her tires
10:49pmSandy
I wish I had paid more attention
Sorry
10:49pmCarrie
It was Monday may 22 2006
They are very corrupt
10:50pmSandy
Damn, I don't even remember what year it was
Thats nuts Carrie
10:50pmCarrie
I feel so bad I didnt believe my friend
10:50pmSandy
I'm sure you do
10:51pmCarrie
It just sounded so outrageous at the time that they would have drove all the way to colorado just to slash her tires!!!
10:51pmSandy
That's what I'm thinkin
10:51pmCarrie
Its not what you would expect from cops that take an oath to protect and serve the community
10:51pmSandy
For sure
10:51pmCarrie
But they really did drive down there!
10:51pmSandy
yes they did
10:52pmCarrie
And I think the U.S. Attorney knew that the cops true intention was to intimidate and scare Annette.
10:52pmSandy
That poor girl
10:53pmCarrie
You see they spent all that money to interview you then they did not subpoena you...that makes no sense unless they were covering it up.
10:53pmSandy
They didn't get any useful info from me
10:53pmCarrie
Especially since they have subpoenad my mom, and Mike and heck they even subpoenaed John Cale...LOL
10:54pmSandy
Oh brother
10:54pmCarrie
Girl they havent even talked to John cale and he got a subpoena
10:54pmSandy
How much sense does that make?
10:54pmCarrie
They never even talked to Wynona and she is just over the bridge...much less gas...lol
10:54pmSandy
I KNOW
10:55pmCarrie
That is so bad! They have been so naughty!
10:55pmSandy
That confused me!!!
10:55pmCarrie
me too....until I put the pieces together
10:55pmSandy
lol.....you're right
10:55pmCarrie
Now it all makes sense!
10:55pmSandy
I guess so
10:56pmCarrie
This has been like a big puzzle..and there is always a motive..figure out the motive and you solve the puzzle
10:56pmSandy
But what did they gain by slashing her tires?
Just a fear factor?
10:56pmCarrie
They were trying to scare her so she wouldn't go after them
yep
10:56pmSandy
Stupid!!
10:57pmCarrie
fear..letting her see how much power they had
The entire case is a fraud.
10:57pmSandy
What power does it take to slach a tire?
Ass holes
10:57pmCarrie
Well I guess it was like a threat...next time it could be her..so to speak
10:58pmSandy
Yeah, I understand
10:58pmCarrie
It cost her a lot of money to replace the tires.
10:58pmSandy
Did it scare her?
10:58pmCarrie
She was really upset.
10:58pmSandy
Yes, I'm sure!!
10:59pmCarrie
I dont think she was scared, she was just mad. And I didn't help, because I thought she was just trying to get me to send her money..I didnt believe her
10:59pmSandy
I can't blame you though....it sounds pretty wild at first
10:59pmCarrie
Any way I thought you might get a kick out of knowing what those two cops were really up to.
11:00pmSandy
Well, it explains a lot
I thought it was very strange
11:00pmCarrie
Bialek was the short cop, according to witnesses he is the one that got out of the car and slashed the tires
Rantz was the red head, he stayed in the car.
11:00pmSandy
Bastards
11:00pmCarrie
yep!
11:01pmSandy
That poor girl
11:01pmCarrie
yea they put her through a lot
11:01pmSandy
Sounds like it
Are they leaving her alone now?
11:02pmCarrie
She has disappeared.
11:02pmSandy
OMG
11:02pmCarrie
because of the harassment the lawsuit was sealed
11:03pmSandy
What a big fat mess!!
11:03pmCarrie
She was on my facebook until a couple of months ago
then she was just gone.
11:03pmSandy
Dang
I hope she's okay
11:03pmCarrie
yea I hope so too, but its out of my hands.
I think she has just gone into hiding
11:04pmSandy
Probably
11:04pmCarrie
Hopefully she got her money
11:04pmSandy
Money?
11:04pmCarrie
she said she had a huge lawsuit going..that is why they were harassing her
11:05pmSandy
Oh, I see
11:05pmCarrie
I hope that doesnt make you feel any less important...lol
11:05pmSandy
Will she still be a witness for you?
11:05pmCarrie
having them drive all the to colorado for you and all!
11:05pmSandy
I feel better actually
Not about the poor girl of course
11:06pmCarrie
Only if she can be found..and I dont think that is going to happen. BUt its definately not going to look good to the jury
THe fact they didnt subpoena you just makes the fact that the trip to CO was actually to harass Annette more stronger
And it shows how manipulative they are
11:08pmSandy
I think they knew they were'nt going to find out anything from me before they made the trip
They were insistant
11:09pmCarrie
Of course they did, like I said even if you had some big time goods on me, you hadnt worked for me in 5 years, any info you had would have been beyond the statute of limitations and useless to them anyway.
11:09pmSandy
Yep
11:09pmCarrie
You should have sued them for harassing you!!
11:10pmSandy
lol
11:10pmCarrie
seriously! That was harassment!
11:10pmSandy
I didn't really feel harassed
Just confused
11:11pmCarrie
I know you weren't happy
11:11pmSandy
No I wasn't
11:11pmCarrie
I could tell by your voice.
You were very confused why they were there
11:11pmSandy
Yeah
11:11pmCarrie
I wish you remember something about the car they were driving.
That would supprt the witness'es account
11:12pmSandy
Let me ask Don if he remembers
11:12pmCarrie
cool
11:13pmSandy
It was a gray or brown Crown Vic
11:13pmCarrie
That is exactly what the witness said! WOW
A crown vic!!!!!
11:13pmSandy
Yep
11:13pmCarrie
COOL! Thanks!!!
11:14pmSandy
You're very welcome
11:14pmCarrie
I will tell my attorney
11:14pmSandy
Okay
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